{"id":37082,"date":"2019-08-07T19:03:08","date_gmt":"2019-08-07T19:03:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.moderndriveline.com\/resources\/?p=37082"},"modified":"2019-08-07T19:03:08","modified_gmt":"2019-08-07T19:03:08","slug":"ford-in-line-6-cylinder-bell-housing-identification","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.moderndriveline.com\/resources\/ford-in-line-6-cylinder-bell-housing-identification\/","title":{"rendered":"Ford In-line 6 Cylinder Bell Housing  Identification"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"intro\">It\u2019s time to put all the confusion, myths, taboos, and battles of the Ford 6-cylinder bell housings, flywheels, and clutches to bed once and for all. For years people have wondered what they have, what do I need, where can I get it, how come\u2026 (fill in the blank). If you have one of these mysterious gems you need to read the following article. We\u2019ll also tell you which pattern is which when it comes to what transmission model is for which bell. Confused yet? You won\u2019t be.<\/p>\n<p class=\"intro\">\n<div align=\"left\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<table border=\"0\" width=\"273\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"273\">\n<p align=\"left\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/www.moderndriveline.com\/mm5\/graphics\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/170_six_engine-1-2.jpg\" width=\"250\" height=\"212\" border=\"0\" \/><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\" width=\"273\" height=\"30\"><span style=\"font-size: xx-small;\"><b>Ford In-Line 6 170<\/b><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p><\/div>\n<p class=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"normal\">The focus of this article is on the passenger car Ford 6 from the 60s &amp; 70s found in the Mustang, Falcon, Maverick, Comet, Ranchero, Econoline, and many other platforms.The passenger car engine displacements we\u2019re covering are 144, 170 &amp; 200.<\/p>\n<p class=\"normal\">For the 144, 170 &amp; 200 engines, here are some basic \u201cmatch-ups\u201d you can be sure of:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>If your starter attaches with THREE bolts to the bell housing you have an 8.5\u201d clutch.<\/li>\n<li>If your starter attaches with TWO bolts to the bell housing you have a 9\u201d clutch.<\/li>\n<li>All 144 &amp; 170 engines will have the Three-bolt starter and 8.5\u201d clutch.<\/li>\n<li>All 8.5\u201d clutches use a \u201cdog dish\u201d 132 Tooth flywheel.<\/li>\n<li>All 9\u201d clutches use a \u201cflat\u201d 136 Tooth flywheel.<\/li>\n<li>You cannot use a 9\u201d clutch and flywheel on a 144 or 170 engine.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p class=\"normal\">The 200 inline 6 is where the fun begins. Variable between years beginning in 1966 to as late as 1968 that we\u2019ve seen, some of these 200 c.i. blocks have a dual pattern for early, 8.5\u201d, and late, 9\u201d, style bell housings and clutches. If your engine block has both bolt patterns you can run either \u201cmatch-up\u201d you wish. In 1967 and beyond, most cars have the 9\u201d bell\/clutch combo.<\/p>\n<p class=\"normal\">Now the question is\u2026 what transmission do all these bell housings bolt up to? And can I upgrade to a 5-speed? The answer to the last question is YES, to all combinations, except the \u201cearly\u201d Dagenham pattern and the Econoline bells are questionable.\u00a0 We\u2019ll cover that later.<\/p>\n<h3>Bell Housing Types<\/h3>\n<p class=\"normal\">Below are different types of bell housings with part numbers, what clutch they use, and what transmission they are for. But first, let\u2019s talk about the different types of transmissions there are.<\/p>\n<p class=\"normal\">There is the 2.77, the 3.03, the Dagenham (early, oddball, and late), the Ford 4 speed (T-10), and the Toploader.<\/p>\n<h3>2.77 &amp; 3.03<\/h3>\n<p class=\"normal\">The 2.77 &amp; 3.03 three-speed transmission designations are not gear ratios. It is the distance in inches between the input shaft centerline and the countershaft centerline.Additionally, the bolt patterns attached to the bell housings are different.<\/p>\n<h3>Toploader<\/h3>\n<p class=\"normal\">Not all 4-speed transmissions are Toploaders. Toploader is not a term, but rather a specific type of transmission because the guts load in from a top cover plate and there is no side cover for the shift forks.<\/p>\n<h3>Dagenham<\/h3>\n<p class=\"normal\">The Dagenham is one of these non-Toploader transmissions. Introduced as the light duty 4-speed transmission to be used behind the Ford 6 cylinder in the Pony cars, it is not the first choice for performance enthusiasts because of its weaker nature. It also has its own bolt pattern bolting up to the bell. The \u201cearly\u201d Dagenham from 1962-1965 uses its own unique bolt pattern. This transmission was found in early deluxe Comets &amp; Falcons with 144 &amp; 170 c.i. engines and 170 &amp; 200 c.i. engines in the Mustang in 1964 \u00bd &amp; 1965.The \u201clate\u201d 1965-1966 Dagenham is plentiful and popular and was used in Mustangs behind the 200 c.i. engine with its own \u201cdifferent\u201d bolt pattern compared to the early Dagenhams. There is also the \u201cOddball\u201d Dagenham which would probably be found behind the 170 c.i. engines with a short input shaft and the later bolt pattern.<\/p>\n<p class=\"normal\">\n<table id=\"AutoNumber1\" border=\"0\" width=\"100%\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"50%\">\n<div align=\"center\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<table border=\"0\" width=\"200\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.moderndriveline.com\/mm5\/graphics\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/i6bell001-25.jpg\" width=\"250\" height=\"214\" border=\"0\" \/><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\" height=\"20\"><span style=\"font-size: xx-small;\"><b>C0DD-6394-A and C3DA-6394-B\u2013 Cast Aluminum, 3 Bolt starter, 2.77 trans, 8.5\u201d clutch, 132T flywheel, 5.375\u201d thick.Note: Keep reading\u2026 if you have a 4-speed, the early Dagenham bell looks very similar but IS different.<\/b><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p><\/div>\n<\/td>\n<td width=\"50%\">\n<div align=\"center\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<table border=\"0\" width=\"200\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.moderndriveline.com\/mm5\/graphics\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/i6bell003-25.jpg\" width=\"250\" height=\"230\" border=\"0\" \/><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\" height=\"20\"><span style=\"font-size: xx-small;\"><b>C3OA-6394-C &#8211; Cast Iron, 3 Bolt starter, Dagenham trans, 8.5\u201d clutch, 132T flywheel. Oddball!!! This one has the late Dagenham trans pattern but is only 5.875\u201d thick, same as the 2.77 3 speed trans. Our 2.77 adapter works for this bell too.<\/b><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p><\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"50%\">\n<div align=\"center\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<table border=\"0\" width=\"200\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<p align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.moderndriveline.com\/mm5\/graphics\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/i6bell005-25.jpg\" width=\"250\" height=\"309\" border=\"0\" \/><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\" height=\"20\"><span style=\"font-size: xx-small;\"><b>C3DA-6394-A &#8211; Cast Aluminum, 3 Bolt starter, early Dagenham trans, 8.5\u201d clutch, 132T flywheel, 5.375\u201d thick. Note: The first bell housing shown in this article is a 2.77. Notice it looks like the same bell but with a different bolt pattern. This is the only bell that has the head of the mounting bolts inside the bell and the threads are in the transmission, not in the bell.<\/b><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p><\/div>\n<\/td>\n<td width=\"50%\">\n<div align=\"center\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<table border=\"0\" width=\"200\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<p align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.moderndriveline.com\/mm5\/graphics\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/i6bell007-25.jpg\" width=\"250\" height=\"247\" border=\"0\" \/><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\" height=\"20\"><span style=\"font-size: xx-small;\"><b>C6OA-6394-C &#8211; Cast Aluminum, 2 Bolt starter, late Dagenham trans, 9\u201d clutch, 136T flywheel, 6.250\u201d thick.<\/b><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p><\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"50%\">\n<div align=\"center\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<table border=\"0\" width=\"200\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<p align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.moderndriveline.com\/mm5\/graphics\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/i6bell009-25.jpg\" width=\"250\" height=\"247\" border=\"0\" \/><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\" height=\"20\"><span style=\"font-size: xx-small;\"><b>C6TA7500 \u2013 Cast Iron, 2 Bolt starter, 3.03, late T-10 &amp; Toploader trans (AKA Ford wide pattern), 9\u201d clutch, 136T flywheel, 6.250\u201d thick.<\/b><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p><\/div>\n<\/td>\n<td width=\"50%\">\n<div align=\"center\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<table border=\"0\" width=\"200\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<p align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.moderndriveline.com\/mm5\/graphics\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/i6bell011-25.jpg\" width=\"250\" height=\"256\" border=\"0\" \/><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\" height=\"20\"><span style=\"font-size: xx-small;\"><b>C7ZA-6394-A &#8211; Cast Aluminum, 2 Bolt sta<br \/>\nrter, 3.03, late T-10 &amp; Toploader trans (AKA Ford wide pattern), 9\u201d clutch, 136T flywheel, 6.250\u201d thick.<\/b><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p><\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"50%\">\n<div align=\"center\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<table border=\"0\" width=\"200\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.moderndriveline.com\/mm5\/graphics\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/Econoline-C1UU-6394.jpg\" width=\"250\" border=\"0\" \/><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\" height=\"20\"><span style=\"font-size: xx-small;\"><b>C1UU-6394 &#8211; Cast Aluminum, 3 Bolt starter, Early T-10 &amp; Toploader trans (AKA Ford narrow pattern), 8.5\u201d clutch, 132T flywheel, 5.5\u201d thick. This bell is used on Econolines with the 170 engine. Various Modern DriveLine adapters can be put up to this bell depending on what transmission you plan to run. Using this bell is not recommended.<\/b><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p><\/div>\n<\/td>\n<td width=\"50%\">\n<div align=\"center\">&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p class=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"normal\">Moving forward in the 21st century you can now Modernize your vehicle with an overdrive transmission and still maintain your existing bell, clutch &amp; starter.<\/p>\n<p class=\"normal\">Modern Driveline Inc. offers adapter plates for all of these bell combinations (except C3DA-6394-A, early Dagenham) to mount a Tremec T5 \u201coverdrive\u201d transmission in your vehicle. The T5 mounts without cutting or modifying the body and we offer crossmembers and complete swap solutions for a variety of vehicles. For some vehicles, we recommend the \u201cfront shift\u201d conversion to move the shifter lever to a more comfortable position, clear a bench seat, and provide leg room.<\/p>\n<p class=\"normal\">For those enthusiasts who require More Safety with More Power, we also offer a QuickTime bell housing for the Ford 200 6-cylinder engine (9\u201d clutch only).These bells are set up for stock-style mechanical fulcrum linkage &amp; late model cable-style linkage.<\/p>\n<p class=\"normal\">Modern Driveline also offers complete hydraulic solutions for use with all the stock bells and the Quick Time bell housing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"normal\">Modern Driveline offers complete solutions for the In-line 6-cylinder engines. The installation of an overdrive transmission will increase the drivability of your car, enhancing your driving experience and increasing mileage.<\/p>\n<p class=\"normal\">\n<h2>208-453-9800<\/h2>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It\u2019s time to put all the confusion, myths, taboos, and battles of the Ford 6-cylinder bell housings, flywheels, and clutches to bed once and for all. For years people have wondered what they have, what do I need, where can I get it, how come\u2026 (fill in the blank). 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