{"id":37212,"date":"2019-08-07T21:38:29","date_gmt":"2019-08-07T21:38:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.moderndriveline.com\/resources\/?p=37212"},"modified":"2019-08-07T21:38:29","modified_gmt":"2019-08-07T21:38:29","slug":"ford-in-line-6-cylinder-bell-housing-starter-clutch-match-up-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.moderndriveline.com\/resources\/ford-in-line-6-cylinder-bell-housing-starter-clutch-match-up-2\/","title":{"rendered":"HOW TO: Match-up for Ford In-line 6-Cylinder Bell Housing\/ Starter\/ Clutch"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"intro\">Need help determining which Ford In-line 6 you have?This article takes away the guesswork when it comes to getting the right components for the flywheel, clutch, and starter by showing you the back of the block and what to look for.<\/p>\n<p class=\"normal\"><strong>This article works with our <span style=\"color: #3366ff;\">\u201c<a style=\"color: #3366ff;\" title=\"6 Cylinder Bell Housing Identification\" href=\"https:\/\/www.moderndriveline.com\/resources\/ford-in-line-6-cylinder-bell-housing-identification\/\">6 Cylinder Bell Housings<\/a>\u201d<\/span> article.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"normal\">The Ford In-line 6 cylinder used in passenger cars and Econolines came in 3 sizes in the \u201960s and \u201970s: 144, 170 &amp; 200 c.i. displacements.\u00a0 Also used in various vehicles were 240, 250 &amp; 300 c.i. displacements.\u00a0 The focus of this article does not include those engines.<\/p>\n<p class=\"normal\">Easily recognizable are the 144 &amp; 170 engines which have only 3 freeze plugs on the passenger side of the block, while the 200 engines have 5 freeze plugs on the passenger side of the block.\u00a0 It is possible early 200 engines have 3 freeze plugs but don\u2019t quote me on that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"normal\">The confusion comes in when trying to determine which flywheel, clutch, and starter to use.The below pictures and dimensions will clarify this and show an example of the 8.5\u201d set-up being installed.<\/p>\n<div align=\"center\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<table border=\"0\" width=\"100%\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.moderndriveline.com\/mm5\/graphics\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/image002.jpg\" width=\"100%\" border=\"0\" \/><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\" height=\"20\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><b>Shown above is what we call a \u201cdual pattern block\u201d. It has both 8.5\u201d and 9\u201d bell patterns and can be used for either set-up.<\/b><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p><\/div>\n<p class=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"normal\">The \u201cset-up\u201d has 5 things that must match with each other:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Engine block,<\/li>\n<li>engine block plate,<\/li>\n<li>flywheel,<\/li>\n<li>clutch (disk and pressure plate),<\/li>\n<li>starter.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p class=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"normal\">You either use the 8.5\u201d set-up or the 9\u201d set-up.\u00a0 Do not try and mix\/match. It will not work.<\/p>\n<p class=\"normal\">There are 4 holes that hold the bell housing to the block. The bottom two holes, in line horizontally with the crank, are the same whether you have the 8.5\u201d or 9\u201d. The top two holes are variable depending on whether you have an 8.5\u201d or 9\u201d engine block.<\/p>\n<p class=\"normal\">Not all engine blocks are \u201cdual pattern\u201d. The 144 &amp; 170 engines only had the 8.5\u201d set-up. The early 200\u2019s, 1964-66, used the 8.5\u201d set-up. The mid 200\u2019s, 1965-68, had dual pattern blocks. And the late 200 block castings, 1967-1979 only had the 9\u201d set-up. On a side note, the last 200\u2019s, 1980-83 shared the V-8 Small Block Ford block casting. Since I don\u2019t have all the block casting numbers and we\u2019ve had customers with various \u201cstock\u201d configurations, it\u2019s anyone\u2019s guess as to the methodology Ford used to determine which car got what block\/trans in the 60\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p class=\"normal\">So the best way we know is to measure horizontally between the top two bolts. Notice on our picture with the fingers we are pointing at the 8.5\u201d and 9\u201d patterns. Our block had an 8.5\u201d bell housing installed, based on the wear pattern in the paint. See the last page for some block part numbers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"normal\"><strong>The measurements from center of bolt to center of the bolt are:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>8.5\u201d &#8211; 4.75\u201d center to center<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>9\u201d &#8211; 5.5\u201d center to center<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div align=\"center\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<table border=\"0\" width=\"100%\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.moderndriveline.com\/mm5\/graphics\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/image004.jpg\" width=\"100%\" border=\"0\" \/><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\" height=\"20\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><b>Above we show a dual pattern block with an 8.5\u201d set-up: 3-bolt starter block plate, 132 tooth flywheel, and stock 8.5\u201d clutch.<\/b><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p><\/div>\n<p class=\"normal\">\n<div align=\"center\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<table border=\"0\" width=\"100%\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.moderndriveline.com\/mm5\/graphics\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/image006.jpg\" width=\"100%\" border=\"0\" \/><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\" height=\"20\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><b>Shown above is an 8.5\u201d Flywheel being installed.<\/b><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p><\/div>\n<p class=\"normal\">The 8.5\u201d flywheel is Dog Dished while a 9\u201d flywheel will be flat with a slight machined lip in some cases.Be sure to use thread sealant on the flywheel bolts or prepare for a wet slipping clutch.<\/p>\n<div align=\"center\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<table border=\"0\" width=\"100%\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.moderndriveline.com\/mm5\/graphics\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/image008.jpg\" width=\"100%\" border=\"0\" \/><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\" height=\"20\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><b>Shown above is an 8.5\u201d Tremec T-5 change-over clutch set being installed.<\/b><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p><\/div>\n<p class=\"normal\">\n<div align=\"center\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<table border=\"0\" width=\"100%\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.moderndriveline.com\/mm5\/graphics\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/image010.jpg\" width=\"100%\" border=\"0\" \/><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=\"center\" height=\"20\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\"><b>Here is a picture of an 8.5\u201d bell with a Modern Driveline adapter plate and Tremec T-5 transmission. This is installed in a 1965 Mustang with a mechanical linkage.<\/b><\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p><\/div>\n<p class=\"normal\">\n<p class=\"normal\">Here are some Block casting numbers:<\/p>\n<p class=\"normal\">C5DE 6015-H\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Early 200 I-6, 5 freeze plugs, 8.5\u201d pattern only.<\/p>\n<p class=\"normal\">\n<p>&nbsp;<strong>Additional Information:<\/strong><strong><span style=\"color: #3366ff;\"><a style=\"color: #3366ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.moderndriveline.com\/resources\/ford-in-line-6-cylinder-bell-housing-identification-3\/\">Ford In-line 6 Cylinder Bell Housing Identification6-Cylinder Identification<\/a><\/span><\/strong>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"normal\">Modern Driveline offers complete solutions for the In-line 6 cylinder engines.The installation of an overdrive transmission will increase the drivability of your car, enhancing your driving experience and increasing mileage.<\/p>\n<p class=\"normal\">\n<h4><span style=\"color: #808080;\"><em>please don&#8217;t hesitate to call us with any questions you may have&#8230;\u00a0 <\/em><\/span><em>208-453-9800<\/em><\/h4>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Need help determining which Ford In-line 6 you have?This article takes away the guesswork when it comes to getting the right components for the flywheel, clutch, and starter by showing you the back of the block and what to look for. This article works with our \u201c6 Cylinder Bell Housings\u201d article. 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